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Sir John Lindsay


NationalityBritish 
RolesNaval Sailor 
Date of Birth1737HPO
First Known Service1749ref:898
FatherSir Alexander Lindsay, 3rd Bt.HPO
MotherAmelia MurrayHPO
WifeMary Milner - Married 19.9.1768HPO
MistressMaria Belleref:676
MistressMary Velletref:1317
MistressSarah Gandwellref:1317
MistressMartha Gref:1317
MistressFrancis Edwardsref:1317
Illegitimate DaughterDido Elizabeth Belle [Davinière] (1761-1804)ref:1317
Illegitimate SonJohn Edward Vellet (1762-1762)ref:1317
Illegitimate DaughterAnn Gandwell (1766-?)ref:1317
Illegitimate DaughterElizabeth [Hill] (1766-1842)ref:1317
Illegitimate SonJohn Edwards (1767-1821)ref:1317
BrotherDavid, 4th Bt. (c.1732-1797)ref:1317
SisterMargaret [Ramsey]ref:1317
BrotherWilliamref:1317
SisterKatherine [Lindsay]ref:1317
Last Known Service24.9.1787TRN3
Date of Death4.6.1788HPO

Event History


Date fromDate toEventSource
31.10.174918.6.1752
Royal Naval Academy (Unarmed) 1733-1837
British Unarmed Gun
Shore Unknown
1806 Renamed "Royal Navy College"
, Scholar ADM 6/17/502
ADM 107/4
4.9.175226.2.1754
Deptford (50) 1732-1767
British 50 Gun
4th Rate Ship of the Line
, Volunteer-per-order ADM 107/4/355
ADM 107/4
27.2.17541.3.1756
Deptford (50) 1732-1767
British 50 Gun
4th Rate Ship of the Line
, Midshipman Ordinary ADM 107/4/355
ADM 107/4
1.3.1756 Passed the Lieutenant's Examination ADM 107/4/355RNLPC
2.3.1756 LieutenantCSORN
2.3.17564.3.1756
Nottingham (60) 1745-1773
British 60 Gun
4th Rate Ship of the Line
, Third Lieutenant ADM 6/18/241
ADM 6/18
4.3.175623.3.1756
Royal George (100) 1756-1782
British 100 Gun
1st Rate Ship of the Line
, Sixth Lieutenant ADM 6/18/241
ADM 6/18
23.3.17564.4.1757
Tartar (24) 1756-1797
British 24 Gun
6th Rate Frigate
, Second Lieutenant ADM 6/18/245
ADM 6/18
18.2.1757 Tartar v Montrozier 
27.3.1757 Tartar v Marie Victoire 
4.4.1757 CommanderCSORN
4.4.175729.9.1757
Pluto (8) 1756-1762
British 8 Gun
Unrated Fireship
, Commander, and Commanding Officer: On board from 11.4.1757 ADM 6/18/380
BWAS-1714
29.9.1757 CaptainCSORN
29.9.17571.7.1762
Trent (28) 1757-1764
British 28 Gun
6th Rate Frigate
, Captain, and Commanding Officer ADM 6/18/441
BWAS-1714
6.6.175827.7.1758The Siege of Louisbourg 
21.2.1759 Vestal vs Bellone 
6.17599.1759Seige of Quebec 
6.6.176213.8.1762Operations against Havana 
11.6.176230.7.1762Siege of El Morro 
2.7.176224.8.1763
Cambridge (80) 1755-1808
British 80 Gun
3rd Rate Ship of the Line
, Captain, and Commanding Officer
W029
24.8.17639.9.1763
Trent (28) 1757-1764
British 28 Gun
6th Rate Frigate
, Captain, and Commanding Officer ADM 6/19/529
ADM 6/19
24.11.17635.6.1766
Tartar (28) 1756-1797
British 28 Gun
6th Rate Frigate
, Captain, and Commanding Officer ADM 6/19/551
BWAS-1714
10.2.1764 Appointed Knight BachelorHPO
9.1.176712.4.1768Elected a Member of Parliament for Aberdeen BurghsHPO
23.8.17691772Appointed Commander-in-Chief — East Indies ADM 6/20/248ADM 6/20
23.8.176925.4.1772
Stag (32) 1758-1783
British 32 Gun
5th Rate Frigate
, as Flag Officer, Commodore, ADM 6/20/247
BWAS-1714
28.6.1770 Appointed Knight Companion of the Order of the BathTKE1
9.3.177828.5.1778
Victory (100) 1765-2019
British 100 Gun
1st Rate Ship of the Line
, Captain, and Commanding Officer ADM 6/21/376
W009
13.5.177814.4.1779
Prince George (98) 1772-1817
British 98 Gun
2nd Rate Ship of the Line
, Captain, and Commanding Officer ADM 6/21/404
BWAS-1714
27.7.1778 1st Battle of Ushant 
14.4.177931.12.1779Included in the list of captain's receiving half-pay.ADM 104
16.8.1781 Appointed Colonel of Marinesref:676
10.4.178330.12.1783Appointed Lord Commissioner of the AdmiraltyOHMB4
29.8.17831784Appointed Commander-in-Chief — The Mediterranean Sea ADM 6/23/129ADM 6/23
29.8.178331.10.1784
Trusty (50) 1782-1815
British 50 Gun
4th Rate Ship of the Line
, as Flag Officer, Commodore, ADM 6/23/129
BWAS-1714
24.9.1787 Rear-Admiral of the RedCSORN

Previous comments on this page

Posted by Cy on Sunday 26th of November 2023 15:38

As requested the appointnment has been added.
He was never an Admiral, just a Rear-Admiral as noted.


Posted by EtienneP.Daly. on Sunday 26th of November 2023 15:00

Please include in the timeline between 1779-1783 SirJohnLindsay's promotion to ColonelOfMarines on 17thAugust
1781---a post he kept for duration of 6yrs until made admiral.
Made admiral on 24thSept.1787,the very day that HMS.Dido was
put into commission,a 28gun frigate.


Posted by Etienne P.Daly on Saturday 11th of November 2023 15:14

It must be noted that AdmiralAugustusKeppel,a Whig, was a very
close friend of SirJohn,living not far from each other in then
west London(Mayfair area).Both were at the Admiralty after the
frigate HMS.Dido was ordered and SirJohn was promoted the same day that ship was commissioned on 24thSept.1787.Keppel was dead nearly a year by this time.Sadly missed.


Posted by Etienne P.Daly on Saturday 23rd of September 2023 15:22

Please note the date of death is incorrect:should be 4thJune
1788 at Marlborough,Wilts.Interred at WestminsterAbbey with
the King's wish.Indeed,Lord&LadyMansfield and 2ndLordMansfield.Also in 1799,Dame MaryLindsay,stepmother to DidoElizabethBelle.DameMary was also interred at the Abbey.
ElizabethBelle.


Posted by Mr.E.P.Daly on Monday 1st of June 2020 10:06

Omitted herein was the fact that SirJohnLindsayKB was made a
Colonel Of Marines by the King on 17thAugust1781 whilst officially on inactive duty due to resigning his commission in
support of Admiral Keppel at his trial in 1779.Also worth checking is the frigate HMS.Dido,launched in November1784 and
possibly named after his natural daughter DidoElizabethBelle.
SirJohn was first to captain HMS.Victory and whilst later taken by AdmiralKeppel,responsibilty of that ship was still with SirJohnLindsay for the remainder of that year.


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