Mansuriye

Posted by Hilmi on Thursday 3rd of February 2022 10:50

In "Hadika-i Vakayi", it is written that after the "Tandra" war, a Turkish navy galleon drifted to the shores of Sinop and ran aground. It is stated that two balls weighing 96 scales were removed from this galleon. One of the two galleons sunk in this war is the "Melk-i Bahri" and the other is the "Mansuriye" galleon. This galleon mentioned by our author must be the "Mansuriye" galleon. In other words, this galleon had 2 heavy guns with 96 cantars. We know that other galleons of the same size also have 600 personnel. Probably Mansuriye had the same number of personnel. In Emir Yener's work, we also learn about other types of cannons in this galleon. Using this information, we can calculate the galleon's load. For comparison, I also calculated Europe 64-gun galleons launched on the same dates.

Intrepid (1770).

Length of Gundeck: 48,62 meters.
Breadth: 13,54 meters.
Depth of Hold: 5,79 meters.
TONAJ (Bruthen): 1394 tons.
Guns: 64.
Personel: 500.
Load: 401 tones.
tonnage load: 287 Kg.

Le Roland (1771).

Length of Gundeck: 50,03 meters.
Breadth: 13,16 meters.
Depth of Hold: 6,50 meters.
TONAJ (Bruthen): 1370 tons.
Guns: 64.
Personel: 569.
Load: 394 tones.
tonnage load: 288 Kg.

Aziia (1773) Aziia Class.

Length of Gundeck: 48,77 meters.
Breadth: 13,56 meters.
Depth of Hold: 5,79 meters.
TONAJ (Bruthen): 1404 tons.
Guns: 68.
Personel: 550.
Load: 406 tones.
tonnage load: 289 Kg.

Mansuriye (1772) 51,5 Zira (39,04 m).

Length of Gundeck: 47,68 meters.
Breadth: 14,40 meters.
Depth of Hold: 6,44 meters.
TONAJ (Bruthen): 1521 tons.
Guns: 66.
Personel: 600.
Load: 438 tones.
tonnage load: 288 Kg.

Note: During the summer patrol of 1775, this galleon had 575 personnel. In the 1790 black sea expedition, it should have 600 personnel like other 51.5 galleons.

Posted by Hilmi on Saturday 15th of May 2021 23:39

Correct firepower calculation:

Lower Gun Deck 2 Turkish 1/2 Kantar Gun (22 okka)
Lower Gun Deck 24 Turkish 9 Okka
Upper Gun Deck 28 Turkish 5 okka
Quarterdeck/Forecastle 8 Turkish 3 okka

Total firepower: 212 Okka (271,95 kg.)

Posted by Hilmi on Saturday 15th of May 2021 22:21

Firepower section is wrong. He makes 212 okka in total. This is 272 kg. does.

Posted by Hilmi on Thursday 29th of April 2021 23:43

Mansuriye (1772)

Length of Gundeck : 47,68 m. (from formule)
Length of Keel : 39,04 m. (51,5 zira)
Breadth : 14,40 m. (19 zira)
Dept in Hold : 6,44 m. (8,5 zira)
Bruthen : 1521 Tons BM.
Personel: 575 (1775)